SNSD

好吧，我開始看/聽韓女團不可否認的的確從這團開始，所以要來個心得文和介紹的確從這團開始最好。
Alright, I really had started seeing/listening to Korean Girl Groups since (seeing)this band, so it's precious and decent to start represent from this group.

這團叫做少女時代，So Nyo Si Dae ，簡稱少時 Sosi ，或更普遍的 SNSD。當然韓文我會打，但打出來意義並不大，所以就算了；英文翻譯也有些多個尾音或沒有的差別，但不重要，總之就大概念這樣。

This Group is called Girl's Generation, So Nyo Si Dae, abbreviated as Sosi, or the more popular, SNSD. Of course I can type the korean name (of this band), but it doesn't important, so I skip it; it has some diffence with the Romanization of the name, with or without some sound, but it donesn't important, too, it's just about that sound.

這團有九個人，總共是 Taeyeon, Yoona, Yuri, SeoHyun, Sooyoung, Sunny, Tiffany, Jessica, HyoYeon，順序沒有意義，純最想到就列。
This Group has nine persons, they're Taeyeon, Yoona, Yuri, SeoHyun, Sooyoung, Sunny, Tiffany, Jessica, HyoYeon, the sequence has no meaning, jut what came out of my head.

下面就一個一個不太負責任之介紹，喜歡就看，想反駁我也不反對 XD
Here are the no-responsible introduce of them, no happy no look, if you want to controvert, I really don't care XD

Taeyeon：她是所謂的隊長，但基本上我覺得這種團體隊長並沒有什麼意義就是。另外據稱她卸任了，但我覺得還是不重要。會當隊長原因之一當然是她是裡面年紀最大的 ---- 但也才 1989 ，非常可怕。所以當某謝姓高人問我為什麼韓國人在1080i HD還用大型寬螢幕看皮膚還是這麼好得時候，我只能說除了化妝，其實她們都真的還很年輕啊。

Taeyeon: She is the so-called captain, but I don't think there's any meaning for an "captain" in this kind of group. It seems that she had stepped down, but I don't see any meaning anyway.One of the reason for being the captain, of course is that she is the oldest member of this group ---- a surpring 1989, very horrible (for we Ah Ja Si).That's why when some Hsien guru ask me why those girls' skin still looks so pretty in the widescreen with 1080i HD resolution, I have to tell hime that besides make-up, they're really really young.....

他在整團裡面算很矮的，號稱163但絕對不到，大概跟另一個叫 Sunny的差不多，頂多 158~160左右而已。韓團都會報高，韓國男星也都會報高，所以不意外。她絕對是整團最會唱歌的人，光從唱歌的天份和能力方面，在所有韓國女團她應該也排前三，另一個現役的似乎是 2NE1的 Boom，另外就是我非常非常非常喜歡的 Kim Sunghee了。

She is the shorter in this group, claimd at 163cm, but definate not, it's around 158 to 160, just like the other group member sunny. Korean Groups always claims higher (in their height), Korean male stars are, too, so it's never a surpise. She is undoubtable the best singer in this group. Singing ability and talent-wise, she should be on the top three. On current-active is seems to be Boom from 2Ne1, and the other not-currently-active has to be my personal very best Kim Sunghee.

她在該裝可愛的時候很可愛（沒有瀏海的時候），該認真的時候也很認真，發言也大部分都是她。當然很多溢美之詞我是不想說，但她的確是我最喜歡的SNSD成員。

She pretents to be cute when she has to(without a fringe), be earnest while she has to. She is also the spokesgirl of this group. It has to be a lot of praise words, but I have to say that she is definately my favorite member of this group.

她唱歌的能力在快刀洪吉童原聲帶的if和貝多芬病毒的can you hear me 就已經展現出來了，喜歡的話可以去youtube找來聽，兩首都有在節目上的live。她也有主持電視節目（乘風破浪）、主持電台（親哈親股），上一些綜藝節目等。

Her singing ability had been shown on the OST of Hong Gil Dong (if) and Beethoven Virus(can you hear me), if you like to, you can find it on youtube, both have live on some program. She also host TV program, had a radio show( Chin Ha Chin Gu), appear on some entertaining progam.

Yoona是SNSD裡面最受韓國人歡迎的之一，選理想型通常不是她就是Jessica，她唱歌整個普普，基本上應該是不太能拉出來自己唱的那種。但跳舞還不錯，dance battle的時候她也是會被拉出來跳得成員之一。也是會被稱為梅花鹿的成員，梅花鹿似乎是韓國人稱漂亮女生的一種稱呼。她已經拍了三部戲，你是我的命運、九下兩出局和Cinderella Man，是整個團裡面戲劇演出最多的成員，其他好像都沒有去拍戲的狀況。

Yoona is one of the most popular by korean, while choosing "idea type", it is always she or Jessica, she sings so so, she is not the one will choose to sing. But she dances fine, she is one of the members that will present in dance battle. She is also the member who will be call the " plum deer", it seems to be the name Korean called a pretty girl. She had shoot three dramas, "you are my destiny, bottom ninth two out, and Cinderella Man, are the most drama-participated member of this group, others seem not had been in drama.

Yuri據稱也蠻會唱歌的，她甚至被李孝利姊姊認為是可能之後能夠做獨唱歌手的女團成員之一。但事實上她在團裡面並不常唱什麼比較重要的樂句，除了oh!裡面的 ugimayo比較有趣之外，歌唱方面都沒什麼值得大書特書的。「據稱」她的屁股蠻好看的（我看了也是這樣認為），另外就是一直被認為（或是節目裡說得）是所謂的「國民媳婦」，也就是被長輩們認為是個可以拿來當媳婦的女孩。她跳舞還算可以，也會被拉出來Dance Battle。

It is said that Yuri can also sing, she even was thought by Lee Hyori Runa as the girl group member who can be solo singer. But she don't sing important riff in this group, beside the funny "Ugimayo"in oh!, it's no worthy noticing in singing. It is said that her ass is good, (and that's what I think after I seriously took a look), and she always been thought as (or in the program) "National daughter-in-law", the girl that elder people want her to be his/her daughter-in-law. She dances ok, she will also feature in Dance battle.

還有就是她是固定參加青春不敗G7的兩位少女時代成員之一，另一位是Sunny。我對她的認識很多也是從這節目出來的，畢竟我也看完了能看到的全部了（還在播）

And, she is the two SNSD member joined a program called invincible youth, the other is Sunny. Lots of my knowing about her came from this program, after all, I've seen what I can see.(it is still broadcasting)

SeoHyun 是裡面最小的，1991.6.28，但我對她的認識差不多就這樣XD
她最近有演我們結婚了，跟鄭龍華，但我不太喜歡那個節目。她還有幫很多人彈過鋼琴，包括Taeyeon。還有她臉有一點點大，也不能怪她，她年紀真的很小......

SeoHyun is the youngest in this group, 1991.6.28, but it's maybe what I know about her XD
She recently feature in we got married, with Jeong Yong Hwa, but I don't really like that program. She had played piano for lots of performance, including TaeYeon. Her face is a bit big, but can't blame on her, she is really really young....

Sooyoung 是整團裡面最高的，至少170+，這也讓她在某種程度上可能是腿最好看的成員。某些人會就很喜歡她，她的臉對某些人來說應該算是不錯。然後她跳舞是整團前段班的，Dance Battle她是固定班底。她有代替當時得了H1N1被隔離的Yuri去上一集青春不敗，表現得還不錯，鏡頭比通編女還多 XD

SooYoong is the tallest among these girls, at least 170cm, this makes her might has the prettiest leg in this group. Some person like her so much, her face seems to be pretty to some people. And she dances in the front class of the group, she is the permanent member of dance battle (while SNSD on the show). She had been on invincible youth one episode for H1N1 infected Yuri, she performace pretty well, had even more shot than "all-cut" Hyo Min XD

Sunny
Sunny就是傳說中老闆外甥女還姪女的那個，所以她其實真的不好看，又矮，又走後門。不過她唱歌還算不錯，她有在爆難看的向大地投球韓劇OST中唱過歌，那首歌還蠻好聽的。唱live也算穩。但聽說她本來是訓練成secret，（就善花那個團）因為她長輩的關係才進來SM的SNSD的。

Sunny is the legendary niece, whoes uncle is the boss, so she is really not pretty, an short, and uses backdoor. But she sings pretty well, she had feature in the SO BAD series called threw to the earth OST, that song is pretty good, and she sings live decently. She had rumor to be trained as Secret (the group that SoongHwa in) she went to become SNSD because of his uncle.

她也有在青春不敗裡面演出，最強的技藝就是抓雞了，還有力氣很大。

She also feature in invincible youth, the best skill is catching chicken, and she has enormous strength.

Tiffany, Jessica, HyoYeon
後面三個我累了，明天介紹吧......................................

I am tired, I have to introduce the later three tomorrow....

作者: nestorius (Who Are You！！) 看板: blitzkrieg
標題: [特首] 近日一直有被問的一個問題
時間: Wed Nov 12 23:39:17 2008

「你為什麼沒有去自由廣場？」

我想這個問題是值得發一篇長文來討論的，

畢竟敝人在下唸了幾年很廢的書，大學畢業也只能去醫院當志工推輪椅，研究所畢業還是只能去考供誤元，看來跟著隔壁系（社會）和隔壁隔壁系（法律）同學和學弟妹的腳步去前大中至正，現自由廣場似乎也是很合理的。

但我終究從頭到尾都沒有去，我想理由很簡單，大概就是三個：

1.議題失焦

我想之所以會有這樣的集會，一開始是因為大家看到了有警察做出了逾越(？)了其所被賦予的職權允許的行為，例如過份的盤查車輛，檢查某教授的相機等。

但問題在於，這些所謂逾越的行為，在台灣「歌舞昇平」的時刻是看不到的。換言之，這些做出逾越職權行為的警察，一般時候還是吃肥肥結頹頹，正常時候他們只會在系館後門抓你騎上人行道，還有騎過人行道的紅綠燈；還有上網釣魚抓援交而已。一般時候他們並不會，也不可能閒閒沒事幹就把你攔下來盤查，或者是推擠你到抓走。

這些一般時候的警察也不會因為你三個人聚集就把你抓起來，更不會因為你「真的」違反集會遊行法就把你舉牌警告三次，然後就強制使用物理方式把你驅離。他們一般時候根本懶得理你！

那之所以會變成非「一般時候」的原因是什麼？就是陳巡撫來台灣啊？
如果陳巡撫沒來台灣，就不會有這麼虎爛的維安標準；如果陳巡撫沒來台灣也就不會有這麼多有的沒有的逾越職權。當陳巡撫走了之後，還不是回到原來的歌舞昇平？在沒有佔據道路的情況下，自由廣場整組都可以靜坐啊？也沒有人來扛你嘛。

所以整個議題變成兩個道歉跟集會遊行法修改就很怪，這跟你一開始靜坐的初衷就完全不一樣了嘛！照一開始靜坐的原因，訴求應該是「反對維安工作侵犯人身自由」、「反對以本國元首規格接待對岸官員」等訴求才對啊？怎麼變成集會遊行法了？

2.中途找議題

承上述，這個靜坐的訴求應該是反對警察侵犯人身自由，從本來的訴求轉變為要求修改集會遊行法非常怪異，因為「一般時候」的集會遊行申請並不是太難「過」的，這幾天遊行變得很「難過」的原因一樣還是老樣子：「陳巡撫」來台灣巡視。我講難聽一點，一般時刻（我們）這群學生有申請過集會遊行不核准嘛？甚至用力一點說，這群學生有申請過任何一次集會遊行嗎？如果答案是否定的，那麼把這個議題當成訴求的主軸就很逗趣，很容易就被認為是中途找議題。

這跟當年野百合「解散國民大會、廢除臨時條款、召開國是會議、訂定政經改革時間表」（cite：http://tinyurl.com/6owgt8） 等生死交關、切中要害的議題完全不同，當年的學運處理的是與每個人生活息息相關的議題，而不僅僅侷限在大部分人根本用不到的（希望如此）集會遊行法。這就讓整個靜坐的「正當性」大大降低。

3.沒有那麼「惡」的「那個法」

最後，集會遊行法違憲在哪？只要拿出憲法23條帝王條款：「以上各條列舉之自由權利，除為防止妨礙他人自由、避免緊急危難、維持社會秩序或增進公共利益所必要者外，不得以法律限制之。」就可以打爆惡法的這個論述。上面四個形容詞都是不確定法律概念，不確定法律概念的認定就是由公務機關認定之，不爽你可以去打行政訴訟，行政訴訟兩審都爆了還可以去釋憲，釋憲還過不了你再來靜坐也不遲，畢竟這幾年來因為一個大法官釋憲就完全改觀的執法標準也經常出現，沒有必要用這麼激烈的手段來處理修改法律的問題。

立基於帝王條款的論述，也可以理解為什麼很多人會認為，如果不是偏頗的，「你不進去禁制區就不會被打」、「你不要靠近就不會被盤查」的說法。換言之每個人對於「自由」的定義是不完全相等的，有些人就是認為那個純真美好的，人人看 蔣總統看小魚逆流而上的時代，他們過得比
較快樂；也就是說就算法律和警察限制到別人家裡面來，他也會認為這是公共秩序的展現，只要不是他家就好，反正他是良民，都他乖乖背誦著蔣總統看小魚逆流而上。

這也是為什麼國中的時候我們要念著張釋之執法，告訴我們要乖乖「聞蹕，匿橋下」，不然被看到了會判刑；而卻沒有人告訴我們「為什麼」聞蹕要匿橋下，不小心跑出來還會被判刑？

總之，修改集遊法的這個大方向不僅讓人覺得是中途找議題，在現在其實大部分申請都會過的狀況下，用體制外的方式衝撞體制似乎有些過份了。我不是說不該用體制外的方式衝撞一個不合理的體制，而是明明就有體制內而且還很有可能撞得破的方式，為什麼要為了（找台階下的？）種種原因而卯上了集遊法？